Celtic KnewCo - Fields of Shame

Man weiß schon garnicht mehr, wo das rein soll ... Doncaster wußte vom Missbrauchsskandal und der derzeitige Boss der SPFL ist aufs Engste mit Cetlic verflochten ...

Ehrlich, man sagt sowas Ländern wie Kolumbien oder Nordkorea nach, aber was da im eigenen Haus passiert ist Korruption und Schiebung übelster Sorte ...

https://footballtaxhavens.word…__twitter_impression=true

Sollte man vielleicht mal an DAZN weitergeben.

Ich erwarte Entschädigungen in Millionenhöhe, Administration und Neuanfang in der vierten Liga. Für den Verein die gerechte Strafe, wenn man die sporting integrity als Maßstab nimmt.

Richtig ist aber auch, dass es den Geschädigten wohl wenig nützt, außer vielleicht den Verlust der Ohnmacht, dass man einen solches System doch zu Fall bringen kann und eine solche "Bruderschaft" nicht unantastbar ist. Wenn selbst die Celticfans in den Redaktionsstuben dies nicht mehr deckeln können (oder sogar wollen!), ist es ein gutes Zeichen. Keine Institution darf sich so unangreifbar wähnen, dass es über dem Gesetz steht - sei es ein Verein, eine Partei, ein Clan oder was auch immer.

Gestern hat ja Keith Jackson auch seinen Dolch gezückt ...

The ghost that haunts Celtic's quest for ten in a row - Keith Jackson
Keith believes Celtic must confront the past before they can contemplate the future.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/…eltics-quest-ten-16243822

... aber wie viele wußte er es lang genug, aber es brauchte viele andere Vorreiter - nicht zuletzt die Times in ENgland - bevor die schottischen Clanbrüder was sagten.

Dann kommen unsere Fanfreunde vom anderen Ufer der Clyde daher und wollen den Daily Record (er sponsort 2 Tribünen und druckt den "Celtic View", aber egal) aus dem Stadion verbannen:

https://www.journeasy.com/50-r…073&utm_content=214071490

Zitat von James Forrest

Another day, another reason to ban The Daily Record from Celtic Park.
Another day, another article in this long line of them, ignorant people
writing ignorant trash about the Boys Club abuse scandal.
Today it’s the turn of Keith Jackson, a guy who barely understands the sport he’s supposed to cover.

Today, he thinks he can pontificate on subject’s way bigger and more
complex than anything his brain has tried to handle before. He is not
the first person at his newspaper to dip a toe into these murky waters.
When Celtic starts banning people for it he might well be the last
though.
The club seems reluctant. I really do not understand why.

Even the headline today is a shocker; “The Ghost That Haunts Celtic’s Quest For Ten In A Row.”
If you’re sitting thinking “what does this have to do with ten in a
row?” you are not alone. But as I said, these people can’t stop their
actual agenda from seeping through their faux concern about victims and
justice and everything else. This is about Celtic.

If you were wondering how low the media and others were prepared to go
to degrade our steady march towards a new Scottish record, then this is
it. This is the new way of trying to taint our getting this far. “Celtic
must confront the past before they can contemplate the future,” the
sub-headline reads. How the media and our rivals would love that, if our
club locked itself into destruct mode and spent the summer
self-flagellating.

Let’s be clear; there is nothing whatsoever in Jackson’s article which
hasn’t been said a hundred times by a hundred different people. If
you’re looking for an original thought, you won’t find it here.
“There comes a point when sound legal advice and solid business practice
must give way to a sense of duty and moral obligation,” he says, which
is the same old garbage that’s been trotted out over and over and over
again.
And I repeat what I have before; there are legal processes going on here that take precedence.
It’s all very well and good for snipers on the side-lines and idiots who
don’t understand this issue to talk about the law not being important
here, but Celtic is obliged to follow it nonetheless. It is all well and
good for him and others to demand that Celtic make moral amends, but
I’m afraid Lawwell couldn’t do it even if he wanted to.
Whether Jackson likes it or not, “sound legal advice and solid business
practice” are not just words; they are the club’s legal responsibility
towards its shareholders. All this hollering about our moral
responsibility is hilarious coming from people who have never cared
about such things within the sport itself.
This is reeking hypocrisy and Celtic are right to resist it.
But most of all, we are right to resist the contention that our club is
not a moral institution. They are right to resist the contention that
Celtic is somehow behaving reprehensibly in that it is following the law
exactly and done more behind the scenes than the media either knows or
would like to admit. It is frankly offensive for people who don’t have
the first clue how far Celtic has gone here to take shots at us like
this, content in their ignorance and pursuing their agendas.
Here’s the part of the article that should see Jackson’s paper banned
from Celtic Park forevermore; you could be forgiven for wondering if
this had come from a dredge of the sewers at Follow Follow or the other
more notorious Ibrox fan-sites.
“(Ever) since the recent spate of criminal convictions began totting up –
a list of predators with links either to Celtic FC or to the Boys’ Club
which, on the surface at least, points to something a great deal more
sinister than just one rotten apple getting in through the door …”
Read that again. This is Jackson pushing the darkest of all conspiracy
theories; that a paedophile ring operated from inside Celtic Park
itself.
There is exactly zero evidence to support such a fantastical, and
libellous, contention. It is a disgusting, and even dangerous, thing to
be promoting in a national newspaper, an attempt to toxify the club with
innuendo.
He then suggests that we should be “apologising to the victims and their
families and accepting retrospective responsibility for their
collective pain.”
Oh really? I can tell you right now that there is no way that this
Celtic board will, or should, accept any “retrospective responsibility”
for any of this. Why should they? Not a single member of the current
board was involved in the club during the timeframe covered by these
dark events. It’s almost as if he doesn’t fully comprehend the gravity
of what he’s writing and so blithely suggesting that we do; that is a
monumental admission of guilt where there is none.
“Anything less – any attempt to legally dance around the issue – would
be a scandal in itself and completely unbecoming of an institution of
such pride and national importance,” he writers. Which is the closest
anyone will come to saying what is surely on a lot of their minds; it
does not matter if Celtic was involved in this or not, they have to pay
regardless.
There is no legal “dancing around the issue”, there is either
responsibility or there is not. I love the way so many people on the
other side of this are so cavalier about throwing the law aside here.
Their disregard for the legal position of the club is staggering, it
really is.
There are two mentions of money in the article, and I’m going to get to
the second of them in a moment, but first Jackson attempts to deputise
Neil Lennon into his assault on our club, by dredging up events at Crewe
whilst our manager was there. I mean, it is absolutely and utterly
shameless.
This is the crucial line, and one that should have Lennon fuming.
“Having personally witnessed this level of distress, Lennon will be keen
for Celtic to act swiftly and correctly where their own victims are
concerned.”
Apart from the disgraceful suggestion that these are “our victims” it is
deplorable to suggest that Lennon is on his side of this without any
evidence to match that view.
But it’s here, having warmed up, that Jackson gets to the real point,
and the real point of all this pressure, and again, in ignorance of the
legal facts.
“If (Lennon’s) spending power or wage budget is to be affected by the
cost of cleaning up Celtic’s historic mess, then so-be-it. But he needs
to be given a clear view of it in advance in order to put his own plans
in place.”
It makes you despair, it really does, when you read a national
journalist so concerned with the victims of historic abuse cases that he
is positively salivating over the prospect of it costing Neil Lennon
transfer funds. The agenda is right here on full display.
For the record, and I’m sorry to once again bring the law into this,
Celtic publishes accounts every single year and those accounts are fully
audited and signed off by a legal team and a top firm of bean counters,
and every single year the club has a legal responsibility to publish in
those accounts any “contingent liabilities.”
Contingent liabilities are legally defined as “possible obligations
whose existence will be confirmed by uncertain future events that are
not wholly within the control of the entity … Disclose the existence of a
contingent liability in the notes accompanying the financial statements
if the liability is reasonably possible but not probable, or if the
liability is probable, but you cannot estimate the amount.”
Celtic has never once included such a thing in the annual accounts, and
so Neil Lennon already has “a clear view of it in advance” and so does
everyone else at the club. Whatever else the money we have sitting in
the bank is for, it’s not for this.
Do you notice that nowhere in Jackson’s article is there any reference
to the club conducting its own two-year investigation into all this? Of
course you don’t, because that would ruin the point of the article,
which is that we’ve tried to duck this issue when, in fact, that could
not be further from the truth.
I said at the weekend that some people owe us an apology.
It’s clear we’re not going to get it.
Celtic’s inquiry into all this has pulled the rug from under them but still our enemies carry on.
Before it’s even reported back, some in the media have already dismissed
it as a cover-up. As I keep on saying, nothing we do will satisfy some
folk because the only thing they do care about is seeing Celtic Park
shuttered and closed for good.
Jackson wants a “full independent inquiry” into all this, and if you’re
laughing at his utter brass neck then you’re not alone. When our club
wanted an inquiry into things more relevant to Jackson’s actual job
title, he was talking about how such things are a waste of time and
money.
But of course, that wasn’t Celtic’s time. That wasn’t Celtic’s money.
This particular avenue of attack is juicy because they can use it to
distract us, to put us on the back foot, to devalue our current status
as the biggest club in the country and, of course, in their idealised
scenario, to get as much money out of us as they can.
There is no low they won’t stoop to, and no weapon they won’t use.
Remember that.
It’s going to be a long summer.

Alles anzeigen

https://www.journeasy.com/50-r…073&utm_content=214071490

Was schrieb ein FF so treffend:

The guy is a child rape apologist. Nothing more, nothing less.

Eigentlich ...

https://i.imgur.com/xdrV5An.png

... denn:

Wonder if PS have interviewed John Hughes re McCafferty’s newspaper comments recently when he inferred some dodgy actions with young players

McCafferty should certainly be asked under caution as to what he means re Hughes actions

The police over the years have been negligent in allowing abusers away with crimes when there is loads of witnesses telling newspapers about incidents re CBC and CFC

- Gerry McSherry 14 man suspect list given to police in 1995/1996

- Hugh Birt interview in Daily Record in 1990’s asking Kelly and McGinn to act against Torbett

- The New Jersey expose in the Daily Record in 1990’s

- Books by Andy Ritchie, Macari Brady etc when they talked about dodgy events at CBC CFC

- 1986 article in the Celtic View stating the CFC board had investigated the scurrilous rumours re Torbett and Cairney and allowed the abuse to continue for another decade

- Lawrence Haggart a CBC player murdered and McCafferty calling the Haggart house the day he was killed

- The CBC scout who was reported in 1990’s and again in 2015 and an arrest warrant is issued and the alledged abuser is still at large

This list in itself should be grounds for a public inquiry into Police in Scotland given the clues and witnesses and the time it’s taken to get some of the abusers into jail

https://www.followfollow.com/f…621/page-146#post-3791305

CROWN BUNGLE Police Scotland probe blunder which saw nine Celtic fans accused of hanging Rangers sex doll effigies walk free

COPS are probing the blunder which saw nine Celtic fans accused of hanging Rangers sex doll effigies walk free.
An investigation was launched after prosecutors lost photo and video evidence covering the Old Firm showdown at Parkhead.
Lord Advocate James Wolffe QC revealed the move in a letter to Tory MSP Murdo Fraser.
He wrote: “The circumstances which led to the loss of the productions in this case require to be fully investigated.

“The police have been asked to carry out that investigation.”
The stunt featured two dummies strung up wearing a Gers scarf and Orange Order sash.
Nine supporters were due to stand trial over the September 2016 incident. Mr Fraser welcomed the probe.
He said: “The failure to bring this to court has been a disgrace. Evidence like this doesn’t simply go missing.”

Police Scotland said inquiries were “ongoing”.
The Crown Office added it was “regrettable” the case had been scrapped.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/topic/scottish-crime/

Es gibt einen Thread zu den ganzen Verfehlungen der Trainer und auch dem fehlenden Verantwortungsbewusstseins des Vereins auf FF:

Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)
https://www.followfollow.com/f…621/page-194#post-3952699

Heute verlinkte Mark Dingwall (Chef von FF) Artikel zum Kindesmissbrauch von 1996 ...

https://imgur.com/X87gdcn

https://imgur.com/tCvPHHU

https://imgur.com/Pqi2jcL

https://imgur.com/MOABkuZ

... schon erstaunlich, was man damals schon schrieb und heute von den Journalisten und dem Verein und den verantwortlichen nicht nur damals sondern auch heute aktiv verschleiert wird und ungenannt bleibt.

Tja, und heute in der Zeitung ein Artikel eines der Opfer, der fragt, warum es bei der vereinsinternen Celtic-Untersuchung eigentlich nieman mit den Opfern redete. Und interessant ist auch, wie CEO Lawwell die Ofer nicht als "victims" sondern "claimants" bezeichnet, mit denen man sich der "confidentiality" wegen direkt in Verbindung setzen werde. Man weiß garnicht, wo man da anfangen soll ...

https://imgur.com/IQmecw1

Von dem Urteil im Filminvestitionsprogramm schrieb ich eben auch in unserem Insolvenz-Thread, da es thematisch zu den EBTs paßt:

https://international-adviser.…r-film-investment-scheme/

Das lief bei Celtic so ab, daß nicht nur Lawwell, O'Neill, Lennon und Co. investierten, sondern das allen neuverpflichteten Spieler in jenen Tagen angeboten wurde, selbst Leihspielern wie Craig Bellamy. Auch Chris Sutton und John Hartson waren mit von der Partie ...

... also all jene, die uns vor nicht allzu langer Zeit erzählten, daß tax avoidance (Steuervermeidung) nahezu gleichwertig zu match fixing (Spielmanipulation) ist. Man muß schon eine sehr disfunktionale Beziehung zur Realität haben, um öffentlich jemanden anders mit sowas zu bezichtigen, aber hintenherum ebenso "illegal" Steuern zu vermeiden.

Zitat von Daily Record 2016

Companies House records show how former Celtic stars invested in film schemes linked to tax dodge

October 2016

AS well as a a host of ex-Parkhead stars, former manager Martin O'Neill and the club's current chief executive Peter Lawwell

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co…ALTERNATES/s810/proof.jpg

HERE is the documentary evidence linking a host of former Celtic stars to a £434million tax dodge.
As well as former players, ex-manager Martin O’Neill also participated in the tax avoidance schemes based around the film industry.
Records from Companies House show Celtic’s former finance director Eric Riley and current chief executive Peter Lawwell also benefited.
A Daily Record investigation today revealed how they invested in a number of controversial film partnerships set up by London firm Ingenious.
HM Revenue and Customs have branded the Limited Liability Partnership (LLP) schemes as sophisticated tax avoidance.
And they have issued multi-million-pound bills to hundreds of Ingenious clients all over the UK after winning a tax tribunal victory.
Former Celtic and Scotland star Gary Caldwell is an investor in Inside Track 3 LLP and Inside Track 2 LLP, while he resigned from Ingenious Film Partners LLP in 2010.
The Parkhead club’s former finance director Riley is also a member of Inside Track 3 LLP.
...
Ingenious have admitted all of the above partnerships were covered by the tax tribunal ruling.
Ex-Celtic star Craig Bellamy also joined schemes linked to Ingenious in his time at Parkhead – Cherwell Films LLP and Orwell Films LLP.
All of the LLPs have their registered headquarters at 15 Golden Square in London – the same address as the main Ingenious group.
A number of other former Celtic players – Bobby Petta, Chris Sutton, John Hartson, Stan Varga, Alan Thompson and Johan Mjallby – were also involved in other LLP schemes.
Petta was a member of The Film Development Partnership 11 LLP, while Sutton joined WRP Dryvac LLP.
Varga was involved with The Gala Film Partners LLP, Innvotec 3LLP, Innvotec 6 LLP, and The Invicta Film Partnership No 23 LLP.
Thompson was a director of three schemes and Mjallby two.
Hartson was a director of The Mamjam Technology Platform Partnership LLP, and The Casedirector Technology Partnership LLP, along with Lennon.
In 2012, Hartson and Lennon went to court to try to get money back after the schemes failed and the taxman cracked down.
Lennon had put £200,000 into the partnerships in 2003 after being told it would save him almost £500,000 in income tax.
But he only got £80,000 of his cash back after the Inland Revenue said the schemes were against tax rules, and the investments failed.
Mr Justice Hamblen rejected the case for compensation, and ruled there were “obvious risks” in “aggressive tax schemes” that would allow members to almost immediately double their money.
From 2002 to 2010, Ingenious attracted high earners from many walks of life. As well as Celtic players and management, former England stars David Beckham and Gary Lineker and telly favourites Ant and Dec were involved as well as former Rangers stars Gordon Durie and Billy Dodds.
Hundreds of millions was invested and Ingenious genuinely helped to finance major films including Avatar and Life of Pi.
But the company claimed £1.6billion in losses and individuals who were partners in LLPs were then lawfully able to write off losses against other income.
However, following the tax tribunal ruling, investors have been hit with bills totalling £434million in unpaid tax plus interest and legal fees.
The total tax relief claimed by Ingenious investors was £620million.
A spokeswoman for Celtic last night said the club wouldn't be commenting on club figures linked to film schemes.
A spokesman for Ingenious said: “The film partnerships run by Ingenious have already generated over £1billion in taxable income for the UK Treasury, with a further £1billion to come over the lifetime of the films they funded.
“HMRC have consistently failed to distinguish between commercial businesses and tax avoidance schemes and have deemed all film arrangements to be tax schemes.”

Alles anzeigen

... oder auch hier: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne…ttle-film-tax-scheme.html

Es gibt ja auch Leute, die Beckenbauers Bestechungen zur WM Vergabe gut heissen, einfach weil es ja alle machen, dann muss man das auch machen. Ist bei dem Thema der selbe Ansatz, wenn alle Steuern ausweichen, dann machen wir das auch... ansonsten haben wir ja keine Chance...

Naja, hier ist der Punkt, daß sie uns damals aus allerlei fadenscheinigen Gründen aus der Liga geworfen haben, unter anderem eben auch, daß wir quasi "illegal Steuern hinterzogen hätten", was de facto und de jure falsch ist, aber in der Mobmentalität unterging. Und ein ums andere Mal haben die Lawwells und Suttons und wie sie alle hießen diese Worte in den Mund genommen, von verletzter sportlicher Integrität gefaselt etc. pp., während sie im Hintergrund ein weitaus direkteres Programm nutzen und weiterempfahlen, das den EBTs in keinem Deut nachstand.

Die Arroganz dieser Doppelmoral muß man erstmal haben.

Ui ...

My friend who works st the pavilion says she can’t believe the double standards between the reporting of the two plays.
She said that the whole night was like a night in the rock bar on the falls road and yet not a peep from the mhedia at the time.
So as painful as it is to watch the clip from 2.10 where they sing the fields of athenrye . The chant of Sinn Fein and IRA can be clearly heard. Those jolly craicsters ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suitFxDuNeQ

FF comments:

Nothing new. We are the majority and are ruled by the minority, sleepwalked our way into the Republican Rule

They have their placemen in politics, the mhedia, policing and the judiciary. They are never criticised, even in light of the despicable scandal everyone knows about. Scotland will never recover. It is fatally poisoned.

All begins with schooling not your seeing the results

... aber zum Glück wußte ja 2018 noch niemand etwas vom Missbrauchsskandal ...

Sie können es noch:

Celtic blame Hammarby fans who sneaked into away end after clashes with Swedish police
Parkhead chiefs believe supporters from AIK's bitter rivals who also wear green and white infiltrated the away section in Stockholm.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/…ammarby-fans-who-19034418

Zitat von Der Berliner

Sie können es noch:

Celtic blame Hammarby fans who sneaked into away end after clashes with Swedish police
Parkhead chiefs believe supporters from AIK's bitter rivals who also wear green and white infiltrated the away section in Stockholm.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/…ammarby-fans-who-19034418

Alles anzeigen

Vielleicht waren es auch Lübecker, Bremer oder die grünen Athener... Man weiss es nicht